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Minutes of SHUG Executive Committee Meeting of September 28, 2000

The Executive Committee convened by conference call at 9:30 AM EDT on September 28, 2000. Of the 11 committee members 8 were present. The members in attendance were:

Dave Belanger
Paul Butler
Robert McQueeney
Scott Misture
Constantine Stassis
John Tranquada
Angus Wilkinson
Andrey Zheludev

The first item of business covered was planning of the 2002 SNS User's meeting. The main issue before the committee was a request by NSSA for a commitment from SHUG on the plan for a joint NSSA/SHUG meeting. The fact that the original plan for the NSSA meeting identified NIST as the venue was brought up. Dave Belanger indicated that his understanding was that NSSA is willing to move it to Oak Ridge, but would like to have a firm commitment from SHUG before proceeding. It was agreed in the end that SHUG was willing to commit to the joint meeting at Oak Ridge. However some members felt that in turn they would like a firm agreement from NSSA before proceeding to contact and hold discussions with SNS management. Dave Belanger was asked to bring that up at the next NSSA meeting. The issue of whether this would be/should be an SNS user meeting or a SHUG user meeting (which would include HFIR) was raised and briefly discussed.

Next the issue of user policies was discussed. With HFIR coming on line for users relatively soon the suggestion was made that the HFIR special committee begin consideration of user policy issues (beam time allocation, proposal reviews, access issues, software issues etc...) Several people indicated that it is very important that these policies be consistent across the two facilities and a suggestion was made that perhaps both special committees should begin thinking about the issues, reporting back to the full committee to ensure a consistent message is sent to the various managements. A point was then made that SHUG should not be creating policy, but advising on how to change existing policy and that perhaps we should start by finding out what the existing policy is. It was agreed that the two special committee chairs (Costas Stassis and Rob McQueeney) would write to their respective facility contacts and request an official statement regarding current and planned user policies.

Along these lines, a concern was raised about software at HFIR. While it was acknowledged that some of the much needed software improvements may be in progress at HFIR, it is not clear that there is any leadership, or "guiding intelligence" which would ensure some degree of consistency and help develop a uniform interface. The point was raised that this might be an issue more appropriately dealt with by the HFIR special committee.

Next Paul Butler gave a brief report on the status of the current HFIR upgrades. The reactor was running till the weekend when it would be shutdown for the 6 month beryllium reflector change out. All instruments and equipment had already been removed from the beam room and were being stored in the recently built storage shed adjacent to HB4. This building will eventually house the cold guides and cold triple axes, while the two SANS instruments will be housed in a building which will be built onto the existing building. The preliminary design for this second building had been completed and handed over to an architectural and engineering firm who's work was scheduled to be completed by the end of September. The thermal guides are being fabricated by CILAS while most (but not all) of the cold guides have been ordered. The current schedule calls for the reactor to come back up before March 1, 2001 and for the thermal instruments to start coming on line by Aug of 2001. The second guide hall is scheduled for completion in March of 2002, with the first SANS machine being in place by August of 2002. Paul pointed out that this is a very aggressive schedule and that while the change out will no doubt occur on schedule, considering the large number of factors involved in the instrument startup their schedules could easily slip.

The question was then asked about of the status of funding for SNS, and Paul Butler indicated that he had just received word that it had received full funding in the conference committee. There was some confusion as to the exact meaning of "full" funding as well as to whether the funds would be available October 1 or whether a continuation resolution would be still be required to fill the gap.

The question of whether the SNS special committee should attend the November meeting at Argonne on the long wavelength target station was brought up next. A couple of the members present indicated they would be attending anyway in other capacities and it was decided that no "formal" presence was required.

The question of the approval of minutes was addressed next. Paul Butler indicated that while most committee members had agreed with the original proposal of one week for comments there were a couple of suggestions that a longer time would be reasonable (ranging from 2 to 4 weeks). Paul Butler requested that he get some formal guidance (in the form of a vote) as to when the minutes could be made public (available to anyone upon request). The committee voted unanimously to set 2 weeks from the last comment on the minutes to make them officially accepted.

Discussion then moved to the web pages. The biggest concern was that the SNS logo appeared at the top of all the pages but that there is no mention of HFIR anywhere except in the body of the text describing SHUG. The suggestion was made that either SNS refrain from putting their logo on our pages (even though we are using their server and their staff to put it together) or that the HFIR logo be placed on the page as well. Paul Butler agreed to look into the possibilities. Also a couple of ideas were brought up, including removing the fax numbers from the list of members and replacing it with linked email addresses, and making the name links point to individual home pages

Finally, the issue of future meeting times was discussed. It was pointed out that several members had been unable to join this meeting. After a brief deliberation it was agreed that in general the 9:30EDT slot was probably still the best for now.

There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:15EDT.

Respectfully submitted,
Paul Butler
SHUG Secretary

 

 

 
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