Minutes of SHUG Executive Committee Meeting of March 18, 2004
Present
members (9):
Paul Butler
Nancy
Ross
Takeshi
Egami
Kim
Tait
Joanna
Krueger
Paul
Sokol
Lynn
Walker
Angus
Wilkinson
David
Bowman
- Approval
of minutes from Feb. 5 th and 25 th (if available)
ANNOUNCEMENTS:
- EFAC meeting
4/14 – 4/16/04
Letter from
Ian S. Anderson reads, “As chair of the SNS
HFIR User Group (SHUG), you have see the Spallation Neutron Source
(SNS) project has evolved from design concepts into steel and concrete
structures that will soon support instruments and their beams lines.
As the Project moves closer to completion, the SNS also needs to
evolve the advisory committee structure into a form more suitable
for an operating scientific facility. With that goal in mind, I invite
you, or your SHUG designee, to participate, as an observer, at future
meetings of the Experimental Facilities Advisory committee (EFAC).
EFAC meets semiannually and its next meeting is scheduled for April
14-16, 2004, in Oak Ridge.”
NEW
BUSINESS
- INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY STRATEGIC PLAN
What are some of the issues, frustrations and/or requirements that
we as facility users have with respect to our data. How it is shared
between the facility and our home institutions? Who has access to it.
Who, in fact, does it belong to? What type of IT infrastructure would
we like to see implemented? Etc.
The following reply was formed from our discussions:
The
SHUG executive committee has come to a consensus on several issues
with respect to Information Technology Plans that we would like to
see implemented at SNS/HFIR. Following is a list of key issues and
our comments:
I.
Access to Computers and Networks on-site
Users
will need both on-site computer terminals, as well as relatively
easy access to the network, i.e. to plug laptops to Ethernet. These
hardware needs will be both for access to the outside (email, website,
etc.,) as well as to data and data manipulation tools.
II.
Access to Data and Data Analysis Tools
At
a minimum, access to both refined and raw data collected at the SNS
or HFIR should be made IMMEDIATELY available both inside and outside
of any firewall structure. Similarly, the executables (preferably
for multiple platforms) for all data analysis tools need to be readily
available. Both the data and the analysis tools should be accessible
both for download or remote use from either outside the lab (home
institutions and on the road - i.e. not IP or "dongle" restricted)
and from within the lab (on site hotel, informal discussion areas,
instrument areas). Current and accurate instrument parameter files,
background files and so on also need to be available.
III.
Data Analysis; Portability
We
are supportive of efforts to build a centralized data analysis
tools library. As many of the currently available analysis tools
are "home grown, establishing a carefully
documented library of their capabilities will be important. Also,
there are issues of portability of data from one analysis program
to another. We need to make sure that the output of the instrument,
in its reduced corrected form, can be written to as wide a list
of program inputs as is possible. A small comprehensive 'writing
program' that will interconvert as many different formats into
as many others as possible may need to be developed.
IV.
Off-site Instrument access
Secure,
remote access to the instrument controls, as much as possible without
the potential of damaging the instrument or any on-site personnel,
will be particularly desirable to users.
V.
Data ownership
Although
the executive committee acknowledges that ultimately any data collected
at user facilities is not proprietary and must involve some level
of public ownership, the intellectual property of the scientist
must also be protected. A policy should be established that at
the very least, allows for a certain amount of time to elapse before
the data is made public and that ensures that the original scientist
is acknowledged or contacted in someway if the data is to be used.
We acknowledge that determining the timeframe may be difficult
as some types of experiments lend themselves to immediate publication
while others do not. Security of the data prior to it being made
public is definitely a concern and should be designed to protect
intellectual property within the framework of established data
ownership policy guidelines. A suggestion would be to review any
policies already established by other facilities and programs.
VI.
Collaborative tools
Incorporation
of collaborative tools, such as electronic notebooks, within the
IT framework at SNS and HFIR is encouraged and should be made available
to users who wish to users. Their use however, should not be required.
Again, security, particularly security to prevent unauthorized
access to data recorded with these tools, should be a high priority.
- STRUCTURAL REFINEMENT OF THE SHUG EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
Is it agreed that refinement of the current structure is needed?
If so, what would be the most effective model?
permanent user co-ordinator/manager
longer term and shorter turn-over (2/year)
appoint a non-voting historian
-combination of the above or alternate idea altogether
SHUG
USERS LIST
Should we ask for a mechanism to be implemented whereby all users
who submit a proposal to HFIR or SNS automatically added to the user's
list? Just those whose proposals are accepted? Just those who intentionally
check a box on the proposal stating specifically that they want to
be included? Or offer some kind of mechanism that requires extra effort
on the part of the user to join so that we know that they really want
to be involved.
NEXT
MEETING DATA- 4/22 OR 4/29 OR 5/13?
Next meeting will be 5/20
- NEXT MEETING
AGENDA –EFAC
OR STRUCTURE OR ACNS OR ?
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